Man City's New Owner, lol
Post: #1 - 02 Sep 2008 22:43
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JUST some of his targetsWhat you reckon to Man City's chances next season? and if you look at that above, ok it's from the sun but still it may be partially true but they would have no chance of gettin Ronaldo, Fabregas and Torres for definate !!
What else you reckon to the takeover ?
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Post: #2 - 03 Sep 2008 15:51
Post: #3 - 03 Sep 2008 16:03
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then all the man u supporters will all be like
yeah i always supported city

No they won't.
I have relatives from Manchester, and I know for a fan that they are all Utd supporters and hate city fans. Im sure its the same the other why round. Just because a team gets an investment, and the owner SAYS they will be the best, it dont mean it will happen. Money makes the world go round, its up to the clubs to gain more support and the two Manchester clubs will NOT budge, not even with a cash influence. If that was the case, then there would have been no City fans for years, only Utd ones.
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then all the man u supporters will all be like
yeah i always supported city

No they won't.
I have relatives from Manchester, and I know for a fan that they are all Utd supporters and hate city fans. Im sure its the same the other why round. Just because a team gets an investment, and the owner SAYS they will be the best, it dont mean it will happen. Money makes the world go round, its up to the clubs to gain more support and the two Manchester clubs will NOT budge, not even with a cash influence. If that was the case, then there would have been no City fans for years, only Utd ones.

i no a bunch of nottingham fans that became leicester fans when milan mandervich said leciester are gonna be in premier league mid table by 2010 but now there in league 1 so now they support nottingham again
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Post: #5 - 04 Sep 2008 17:17
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i no a bunch of nottingham fans that became leicester fans when milan mandervich said leciester are gonna be in premier league mid table by 2010 but now there in league 1 so now they support nottingham again


These people you know are good-for-nothing glory supporters and should be shot.
Come on United!
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Post: #6 - 04 Sep 2008 22:15
All I know is I'm glad I chose to support City as my second favourite team last season (Mainly cos of Didi Hamann

). It will make Football Manager and Pro evo so easy

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And you say they hae no chance of getting the players they desire but football today, there is no passion, everyone plays for money. Unfortunately if Man City were to bid for Torres and offer him a contract he could not refuse, then the player who has saved us so many times, would without a doubt be heading to Manchester.
But all in all, It looks like the big 4 could finally have some competition.
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Post: #7 - 04 Sep 2008 22:25
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interesting LIVERPOOL RULE

Wheres the loyalty?
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Post: #8 - 05 Sep 2008 01:13
Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about.
The only type of players who'll go to City are those that think with their wallets over their hearts/heads, ala Robinho. Anyone see his interview? God, the guy's an imbecile. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll end up getting their hands on some quality players; maybe even one or two of the older players that were on 'The List', but they've got no chance whatsoever of getting the likes of Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Messi, and co. Look at Chelsea, they had the cash, but how many actual world class players did they manage to get their hands on? Nowadays the world's superstars want to play for prestigious clubs, not just the ones who have owners with bottomless pockets. And for the record, money does not guarantee success, Newcastle are a prime example. How much of a return have they got on their hundreds of millions invested?
The only thing that'll change now is the price of players. Now that clubs know City have money, the prices for players they're linked to will increase tenfold. £32,500,000 for Robinho? You're having a giraffe.
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Post: #9 - 05 Sep 2008 15:41
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Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about.
The only type of players who'll go to City are those that think with their wallets over their hearts/heads, ala Robinho. Anyone see his interview? God, the guy's an imbecile. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll end up getting their hands on some quality players; maybe even one or two of the older players that were on '
The List', but they've got no chance whatsoever of getting the likes of Ronaldo, Fabregas, Torres, Messi, and co. Look at Chelsea, they had the cash, but how many actual world class players did they manage to get their hands on? Nowadays the world's superstars want to play for prestigious clubs, not just the ones who have owners with bottomless pockets. And for the record, money does not guarantee success, Newcastle are a prime example. How much of a return have they got on their hundreds of millions invested?
The only thing that'll change now is the price of players. Now that clubs know City have money, the prices for players they're linked to will increase tenfold. £32,500,000 for Robinho? You're having a giraffe.

i know, that is true...imagine for instance Watford going into the prem and bill gates buying them! they could get 1 big money grabber but then still do sh!t. there is no I in team! but anyway this city owner comes from a country which has boring footy. and if he does succsesfully sign torres...fabregas...ronaldo...messi...then he still might not be the best coz they probably work badly together. they are all big enemies to be contenders for best in the world!
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Post: #10 - 05 Sep 2008 20:46
Exactly my thoughts.
We've seen it happen in the past with Real Madrid and their Los Galacticos. Granted it brought them success in the short term but after a couple of seasons their winning streak came to a complete standstill. IIRC they failed to win a single trophy three years on the trot despite having some of the best players in the world on their books. Just goes to show that having great footballers on the pitch does not equate to having a great football team on the pitch.
Edit: Hopefully Hughes will put his foot down and sign players he believes will be an asset to the squad, not someone the owner of the club has an unhealthy obsession with. Abramovich and Shevchenko anyone? And well all know what happened there now, don't we.
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Post: #11 - 06 Sep 2008 16:35
Post: #12 - 06 Sep 2008 17:18
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interesting LIVERPOOL RULE

Wheres the loyalty?

Whey go me. That was a typo. I meant my second favourite. I have got to that stage in my life where I will always choose Liverpool but also like to see others do well. Plus on manager games the big 4 are two easy.
Wow I should proof read. Sorry about that
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Post: #13 - 06 Sep 2008 17:21
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i understand your thoughts but sif they dont win the league youve still gotaa think arsenal and liverpool are gonna have some trouble getting to fourth and third place now... i can see the 'big four' changing in to the 'big five'

But sadly there aint 5 champions league slots

and i believe your team are going to eventually slip out, wont be this season but next year i wouldnt mind placing a bet on it.
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Post: #14 - 06 Sep 2008 18:23
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i understand your thoughts but sif they dont win the league youve still gotaa think arsenal and liverpool are gonna have some trouble getting to fourth and third place now... i can see the 'big four' changing in to the 'big five'

But sadly there aint 5 champions league slots

and i believe your team are going to eventually slip out, wont be this season but next year i wouldnt mind placing a bet on it.

i actually agree with you there

Rafa Benitez has been poor at spending transfer funds
the only player thats been good for liverpool is torres that they have bought. Morientes fail. Kuyt has had some good games but not enough for a top team in england. Babel plays well but not played enough. Crouch was good imo but benitez NEVER played him which sucked. I have only ever been excited twice by rafas transfer happenings and they are... torres and michael owen who joined newcastle. i think its time for a new manager if rafa doesnt do anything this season. Also we saw against aston villa that when liverpool dont have gerrard or torres well simply they suck
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Post: #15 - 06 Sep 2008 19:09
I wouldn't bother placing that bet if I were you. By this time next year DIC will have their hands on Liverpool, it's only a matter of time before Laurel and Hardy decide to cut their losses and jump ship. The RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) are fed up with the Americans not coming up with any cash, and these loans are nothing more than an inconvenience to them; even more so when you take into account the current credit crunch in the US and UK. If the Yanks haven't made any attempt to repay the loans come January 1st '09, then the RBS will have no other option but to force the idiots to sell the club. Hicks and Gillett's silence over the publicated stories of DIC stepping up their pursuit indicates that they're seriously considering the £400,000,000 offer they received from DIC, with the possibility of that figure reaching the £500,000,000 mark. Oh, and whilst they're at it, they can take (P)Rick Parry with them, that man is nothing short of an embarrassment.
Here's a small extract from Wikipedia, which indicates Liverpool won't be in the hands of the Americans for much longer.
The latest reports suggest that, since Manchester City Football Club were bought out by the Abu Dhabi United Group on 1 September 2008, DIC have placed an improved £500 million offer for the club. The rivalry between Abu Dhabi and Dubai is intense and with Abu Dhabi now owning a Premiership football club, speculation is rife that Dubai will now increase it's efforts to purchase the club they have long sought to own.
Edit: @ lpoolrule : You have no idea what you're talking about, you ought to hang your head in shame.
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Post: #16 - 11 Sep 2008 09:58
Hopefully with those two muppets out of the club, DIC will come in and Benitez will also go. Now I have some simpathy for him, ok he won the CL first season and he has got the best out of his players. Also Kuyt was the dutch top scorer when he came to us, now he can hardly finish a chance, Keane hasn't settled in at the club and its hard to find an excuse why, you can't say he's adjusting to the prem cos well, he's played there for 7 years! Crouch grew on me after we signed him, however Benitez was wrong to completely ditch him after we got Torres.
At the end of the day Benitez doesn't use the money he has to full affect and he has had one big successful signing and his constant rotating of the team only hinders us more. I'm afraid to say but I find it very hard to believe Liverpool can win the league with Rafa in charge. Which means one thing, he also needs to go.
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At the end of the day Benitez doesn't use the money he has to full affect and he has had one big successful signing and his constant rotating of the team only hinders us more. I'm afraid to say but I find it very hard to believe Liverpool can win the league with Rafa in charge. Which means one thing, he also needs to go.

I disagree entirely.
Due to a lack of funds; compared to the likes of Chelsea and Manchester United, and Rick Parry's slow movement in the transfer market, Benitez has had to settle for second/third choice players. We've seen that when he has the cash to spend he invests it wisely, ala Torres, Mascherano, Skrtel, etc. And even when he gets his signings wrong he always ships them out without virtually any loss whatsoever, IIRC the only time he's made a loss on a signing is Morientes - who at the time was scoring for fun in any team he was placed in. For some reason he just didn't settle in the Premiership, and at a cost of £6,000,000 how many people would of turned down a player of his caliber? If he gets the proper backing, and is able to sign players HE wants then I believe Liverpool will once again be a force to contend with in the Premiership.
Then there's all the malarkey in the boardroom going on; your CE stabbing you in the back; the owners looking for a replacement manager behind your back; the owners making promises that they have no intentions of keeping, etc. With that in mind, you'd have to agree that he's done a sterling job considering the circumstances. Anyone else would have simply walked out, we've seen it happen plenty of times before.
As for the rotation, the vast majority of the time players are rotated for valid reasons. After all, we're not the people who see them train day-in day-out are we? We don't know how sharp they are, or what mind-set they're in, only Benitez does. Most of the time the rotations occur when we're playing against a team we should comfortably beat, even without our big names in the squad, yet for some reason we struggle to overcome them. Players have to take just as much blame, if not more, for the results we get on the pitch. What I've noticed is that no one seems to mind the rotation when we win, but as soon as a result doesn't go our way they jump right on the media bandwagon. Granted he sometimes makes errors with his squad choices, but isn't that the same with every other manager in the Premiership? Rotation seems to be the easy stick with which to bash Rafa, and personally I'm sick and tired of it.
Getting rid of Benitez will put us back another three of four years, undoing all the hard work he's already done for the club. In Rafa we trust, YNWA.
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Post: #18 - 11 Sep 2008 21:36
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Now i disagree with you

If you are to ever win the league you cannot have Rafa in charge.The guy is useless in the transfer market but is a genius in bringing in third rate players and flops; Bellamy,Pennant,Morientes,Auriello,Kewell,Voronin,Itandje may i carry on? And by the looks of things you might aswell add Robbie Keane to the list of "top class" failures.Gareth Barry would have been a certain yes to that list aswell if he was to move.So no wonder your owners dont thrash cash at this guy.He continuely plays your best player out of position and one of your best players who can bring something new to the game just seems to sit on the bench and come on for a little cameo role at the end ( Gerrard and Babel ) The only one good thing to happen to Liverpool under Benitez was the champions league ( some how ) and Torres but as time goes on Real Madrid and Barcelona will come sniffing once Liverpool just dont compete and this could very well be at the end of this season if they fail to get in the top 4. Very simply if Liverpool carry on there running themselves into the ground.
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Post: #19 - 11 Sep 2008 21:59
IMO, its not Liverpool who should be getting rid of their manager. Its Arsenal.
Sure, Wenger has found some decent youngsters like Fabregas and Adebayor(who I personally think is over-rated), but hes let many decent players go, and English, a la Bentley, Hoyte, Pennant(was decent at Birmingham). Not only that, but he just hasnt got he team to perform above the other top 3, and its been like that since they last won the title.
Post: #20 - 11 Sep 2008 23:23
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Wenger has been living on the past for ages now, thats the only reason they wont sack him for what he has done for the club
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